Friday, April 18, 2008

The video

How Hoy won his seat:


Yes, his "win" is as real as pro wrestling. I just couldn't resist.

Yesterday's poker wasn't too good. I was overly aggressive in the Le Cheese Challenge sponsored by Rakebrain. I kept betting with Q Q even though there was a K on the board. I basically gave the chips away with a river bet. Very dumb on my part. Big thanks again to RakeBrain for hosting the tournament for us.

I fared better in the RiverChasers but didn't cash. Out on the bubble. I had my aces cracked twice in the last hour. Can't complain though as I wouldn't have made it that far if I hadn't cracked aces with the Hiltons earlier.

Hoy has an interesting post up where he basically says "Nah uh! It's you who is ruining it." Let's get some things straight here. No one said chopping the prize pool is bad. It has been done before and will be done again. It is all about laying down and giving the seat to someone. You may think it is fair to those who won their seat outright but it isn't.

I have never claimed to be part of any inner circle. I haven't said I was at the first blogger event. I am no "A-lister" (a joke that has gone way above most peoples heads). I don't speak for anyone but myself. From the feedback I have received, it appears I have spoken what many have thought. These games have changed. It is the natural evolution of a community. Some people are never go to get it. At least not get it like those that have been meeting up with each other for more than the last year or two.

That really seems to be it. It is two different worlds. If you haven't spent the night drinking at the Sherwood Forest bar at the Excal with a slew of people, watched the McGrupps light one, made bets on the wheel, or followed Al to a Mexican restaurant for more drinks, or even stormed the Castle, then you will not understand where I am coming from. The blogger world as you know it is different.

I wouldn't say that it is necessarily for the worse either as I have met cool people over the past year. Civility and respect for people as players of the game has gone straight down hill. Buying a seat was just the latest addition to the mountain of crap. See Circle 3 for more info. Watch, someone is going to rig the TOC game.

Hoy pointed out that many of the "old schoolers" don't play in the BBT. Hmm... I wonder why.
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6 comments:

BWoP said...

No one said chopping the prize pool is bad. It has been done before and will be done again. It is all about laying down and giving the seat to someone.

That's an interesting distinction you're trying to make, but I don't understand it. From what I witnessed, what happened is a chop. You might not agree with *how* it was chopped, but it was chopped nonetheless. Somebody explain the difference to me like the newbie blogger that I am.

That really seems to be it. It is two different worlds. If you haven't spent the night drinking at the Sherwood Forest bar at the Excal with a slew of people, watched the McGrupps light one, made bets on the wheel, or followed Al to a Mexican restaurant for more drinks, or even stormed the Castle, then you will not understand where I am coming from. The blogger world as you know it is different.

Just because some of us weren't around when those things happened, it doesn't mean that none of us get it. That's a bit elitist and exclusionary IMHO. Things evolve, sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worst. It is the way of the world.

I'm sure somebody at some point said something along the lines of, "You know, we really came up with something good when we invented the bow and arrow. Now these assholes have to come along and invent a crossbow. There go the good old days."

Given this series of posts and your series of *humorous* circles of poker blogging hell posts, you seem to be indicting a whole lot of people . . . many of whom are out to have a good time with some friends, even if they are in the outer circles.

If you haven't read it yet, Tom Jefferson has his own post on the matter at themonsterstack.com.

4:45 PM
Joaquin "The Rooster" Ochoa said...
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11:07 AM
Joaquin "The Rooster" Ochoa said...

Ahh...let me chime in...for this is the first time I'm talking about this topic.

Let us say that the Eagles were in the play-offs and let us say that the game is a tie. Then they tell the team they are playing: Hey Donavan is sick and can't go on and he's throwing up on the field...if you let us win this game we will give you double what you are making now.
Would you be o.k. if they did as such?

I'm just asking?

Yes or No?

Would the win be tainted? Or would you say, it is o.k. because the money was right? Would you say, this organization has gone to shit for now they are paying people to lay down for money and I can't root for them.

That is what I thought.

11:15 AM
BWoP said...

Doesn't seem to be a relevant analogy . . .

Poker tournaments are chopped all the time. Football games are not. Even StB said that chopping the prize pool in a poker tournament wasn't de facto bad.

4:06 PM
Bayne_S said...

LMAO at video

6:24 PM
Unknown said...

Though I lost the $100 bounty, I get more free beer for Chicago :D

2:06 PM

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